# Variable in wrong order in FA

**URL:** <https://forum.certara.com/t/variable-in-wrong-order-in-fa/1025>\
**Category:** SDTM\
**Created:** [November 11, 2016, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.certara.com/t/variable-in-wrong-order-in-fa/1025 "2016-11-11T06:05:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sergiy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/certara/user_avatar/forum.certara.com/sergiy/32/2553_2.png) [@Sergiy](https://forum.certara.com/u/Sergiy)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.certara.com/t/variable-in-wrong-order-in-fa/1025/1 "2016-11-11T17:56:47Z")

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Hi Abdul,

Order of variables is defined by SDTM Model.

SDTM IG follows this order, but is limited to only some selected variables.

Please refer to SDTM standard, rather than IG.

Kind Regards,

Sergiy

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**Author:** ![AbdulLokhandvala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@AbdulLokhandvala](https://forum.certara.com/u/AbdulLokhandvala)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 11:14am UTC](https://forum.certara.com/t/variable-in-wrong-order-in-fa/1025/2 "2016-11-28T11:14:37Z")

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Thanks for information. Could you please let me know any link which gives more information with regards to SDTM standards.

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**Author:** ![XML4Pharma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XML4Pharma](https://forum.certara.com/u/XML4Pharma)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://forum.certara.com/t/variable-in-wrong-order-in-fa/1025/3 "2016-11-28T13:25:51Z")

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[SDTM | CDISC](http://www.cdisc.org/standards/foundational/sdtm) and look for document “[Study Data Tabulation Model v1.4](http://www.cdisc.org/system/files/members/standard/foundational/sdtm/study_data_tabulation_model_v1_4.pdf)” (so NOT the Implementation Guide). You need to register just once if you have never there before or use your CDISC account.

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**Author:** ![AbdulLokhandvala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@AbdulLokhandvala](https://forum.certara.com/u/AbdulLokhandvala)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.certara.com/t/variable-in-wrong-order-in-fa/1025/4 "2016-11-11T06:05:13Z")

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I am creating FACE domain, I get a warning that FDA expected EPOCH variable is absent. When I added it, I kept this column far right in the dataset as there is no EPOCH variable mentioned in IG under FA. Now when I have added it, I got another warning regarding variable order is incorrect. I also have FAORNRHI variable which we would need to submit for which i have similar warning.

Could you please suggest what should be location of EPOCH & FAORNRHI in FA domain.

Thanks in Advance.